I’m like, really? I like the way he carries himself, and I appreciate it, because I haven’t seen that in a lot of people I’ve worked with. And when [Gideon] comes in and everybody’s up in arms and doesn’t want to work with him, there’s a part of my character who goes, “Wait a minute, maybe this can be the difference that we need.”You’ve seen stuff that you had to turn and look another way. I think if I were a captain, this is how I’d feel.Tell me about those ride-alongs. It’s a whole different kind of work. It’d be a little hard.It’s interesting. But sometimes things turn, and that’s OK. So this is a chance that he never thought he’d have.He was really ready to throw the cards in and go, “You know what, I’ve been here, I’ve seen it.” He’s been passed over, and has to work out in his head, why I didn’t get that promotion. I do “Grace and Frankie.” Those guys are always on point — that’s the old school. I will say this. It’s a very complicated business, and I could not do it. I was a volunteer Sheriff for about 20 years, actually. When I did “Oz,” I met the warden who I kind of based my character on, but I haven’t met anybody like this guy.I’m in Chicago, I don’t know if you saw the “60 Minutes” report a couple weeks ago, about the police there, arrests have been dropped by two-thirds. That’s kind of unusual, especially for young people. It’s not the kind of work I could do.Also, it’s part of a system. I was sitting there going, two guys, “What am I doing here? Posted February 20, 2017 by Scott HuverErnie Hudson’s been at this acting thing for four decades now, and it’s certainly paying off.Not only has Hudson racked up credits in projects that are acclaimed (“Oz”), beloved (“Miss Congeniality”) and downright iconic (“Ghostbusters”), he’s currently appearing regularly in no less than four TV series: Netflix’s “Grace and Frankie,” Epix’s “Graves”; Showtime’s upcoming “Twin Peaks” revival; and, most recently, Fox’s offbeat crime procedural “APB,” playing the grounded voice of an experienced law enforcement veteran who is nevertheless intrigued by the plans of a tech billionaire (Justin Kirk) to introduce some innovative crime-fighting tools to a crime-ridden district in Chicago.It’s the latest addition to the array of cop types played by Hudson, who shared memories of his own volunteer service and points out some of his favorite roles in conversation with Moviefone.Moviefone: You’re busy all the time … Yeah, but also, I’m at a point now I’m not worrying about it. I’ve done police roles, and did the ride-alongs. I thought, “What’s the hate? Some people have a different approach. Maybe that’s a good thing, because people don’t always connect the characters — big fans of “The Crow,” but didn’t know that it was the guy from “Ghostbusters.” Or “Oz” or whatever, “The Hand That Rocks the Cradle.”There are a few movies: I love “The Hand That Rocks the Cradle,” and I love “Congo.” I love “Congo.” “Congo” was so much fun. Yeah. I don’t know how that sounds. We were in Compton, and then we were — a couple different ride-alongs over the years. He also lives in the neighborhood that is least served, having seen it fall apart over the last 50 years, but he still lives there. It gives everybody else the excuse to be, and he does it. What’s fun and maybe scary about a ride-along for you?Yeah. I’ve got three TV shows going right now. So the idea of something new coming in, but also doesn’t want to just sort of let everything just go.So he’s the guy who has to say “no” sometimes, and he’s the guy who brings things back to the reality. So that’s all well and good.What I really admire about him, two things: he’s always on point. I think so much stuff is going on, some of it I don’t totally understand, certainly the character doesn’t understand. But it would be great to find a great feature to kind of get in. I’ve never seen him not on point. And this guy has some ideas and things that my character’s feeling is, if it works, I want something that works. You better be on point when you show up there. In fact, we had a couple people working on the show. I don’t normally say that about many people, but I do appreciate him. But he does set the tone. But I haven’t really met anyone. It’s not just a cop who makes a decision, but it’s a cop who’s doing his part of the job, but then once you introduce this person to this other part, then it can get out of control. I don’t know. I used to cover police and crime and used to go out with the undercover guys. The shootings — and I’m standing on the streets, I’m there — it’s definitely a disconnect. We need something, whether this something, but maybe this something will lead to something else. About the third episode, they begin to really write and bring the character forward. I used to, because I’m not with them anymore, have to go and qualify. But you’re right. Part of it is just how I reason or imagine, but I haven’t met anybody yet quite like that. I read the script, loved the script. I don’t think I’ve ever told him this, so it’s kind of odd saying in public: what I like about Justin is he brings this unique energy to his character, which makes, obviously, my guy is a kind of grounded guy, so essentially to play off of that kind of reminds me of my kids in a way. He’s there, he’s 100%. To my wife, who’s about to have a stroke with this whole turn of events and the political scene, I keep going, “Let it go, because we know what we had doesn’t necessarily work. There’s something, especially in Chicago, because the possibility that something can go wrong, and suddenly, what seems like a typical thing turns into a life/death thing. always! It’s a big change, but he also recognizes that the old way doesn’t work, and we’re losing ground every day. He’s never been in a position to be able to say that.Before [Justin Kirk’s character, Gideon Reeves] comes along and I’m made captain, I’m sergeant, and I’m following orders that I don’t particularly agree with, seeing things happen in the department that I don’t like. To me, it’s important.When you’re the first guy on the call sheet, it sets the tone.Yeah, absolutely. We’re shooting in Chicago. I’ve worked on some shows that people are like insane. It’d be great if it happens, but I’m good.Justin Kirk brings such a fun energy to anything he does.What’s fun about taking your guy’s energy and bouncing it against Justin’s?I love Justin. I’ve worked with a lot of people. The choices that they make, yeah, I don’t totally understand it. But I think he’s a guy who has to say, “Wait a minute, we’re grounded in something and we can’t lose that. And there’s a reason why we do procedure the way we do, and it’s important, so we can’t lose that. I’ve talked to a lot of cops. We’re working, people come in and they’re kind of not — Justin is always prepared. What was it that you saw in this character and in “APB.” that made you want to be a part of it?Ernie Hudson: If I’m honest, I love the fact that they liked me enough to offer me the role, and to not bite me for what I asked for. He’s just such a nice person, and not because he has to be. So yeah. I had a great time!” “The Substitute.” There’s been a few.I’d like to do more feature stuff. I know they’re paying me a lot of money” — or they’re paying me a fair amount of money! I thought it was really wonderful. I really like that movie. The hardest part for me in doing the ride-alongs, I did a television show called “10-8” a few years back. But it took me a while.I can’t say that’s the reason I took the part, but I always appreciate when people say, “OK, we like your work and we want to work with you.”I like the energy that you brought to Conrad, the voice of reason in this high-energy, turn-on-a-dime scenario.Yeah. I’m going to have to be OK with that.”So that’s kind of where my guy is, and to me it’s a wonderful character because he’s in a different place, and a place that he never, maybe on some level he thought he’d be, but it’s a chance to do something radical.Did they bring you anybody like him in real life to talk to or study?I met some of the other police people in Chicago, a couple of captains. — but yeah, I get the importance of this guy, and I get this character, and it’s probably one of the most enjoyable roles I’ve played anywhere. People either love “Congo,” or really hate it. But it’s a great cast. It’s interesting. Yeah, it’s not a life I want. We can’t lose our place.” I think he wants to support this change. But on the other hand, we have to go to a different place. I appreciate those who do.You’ve had such a busy career, and everybody knows you from “Oz,” everybody knows you from “Ghostbusters.” But if people are fans of that work or find you on this show, what are some of your favorite jobs — projects that you’d say, “Hey, check out this movie? Everybody is. I really like what I did in that movie.”Right. So it’s personal to him, that my other captain and a lot of the other people did get why it was so personal. Some actors feel they can’t talk to anybody or whatever. I like the way he treats the crew and the extras, and just people in general. And I think there’s a resignation. Justin is always there.But what I really like most about him? Also, I was with the San Bernardino Sheriff’s Department. I was a fan of Justin Kirk, but my character, I wasn’t sure what it was in the beginning because it just wasn’t really clear. I had so many questions, that have been since answered very well, very nicely, so I’m really excited.I love this character, and I love this guy who I’ve sort of discovered as we’ve gone along.